SchermaOnline.com - INTERVIEW WITH SHERRAINE MACKAY

The english version of the interview, for international readers.

SCHERMAONLINE:
Dear Sherraine, you are the current leader of the World Cup points holder. Congratulations! What do you think are the main reasons for your results at the start of this new fencing season?

MACKAY:
Two reasons: My new coach and my new attitude (and being in the best shape of my life... I guess that makes it three but this reason is directly related to the first two...) I am training with Victor (Gyozo) Kulcsar and he is undeniably the best coach for me. He is funny, hardworking, clever, kind and unemotional. He pushes me to be the best fencer I can be, within the limits of my personality and physical capabilities. Did I mention he is funny?!
So my new attitude has to do with how I see myself. Regardless of my success or failures, I am only a person, loved by God the same as everyone else is. My fencing does not make me who I am so while I know that I can win at any given moment, I feel no pressure to do so in order to prove to the world who I am. I know that I am only a regular person who happens to be pretty good with a sword and in 15 years, that talent is not going to do as much for me as knowing WHO I am will do... so that is my new attitude that helps my performance.
So since my coach is crazy about INTENSE (but short) lessons, I am in great shape. Plus I love running and doing yoga and playing basketball which all helps, I guess!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Where and how did you grow up? Did you practice other sports? What did you major in college and where did you go to school?

MACKAY:
I grew up in Brooks, Alberta which is even smaller than Legnano, if you can believe it! 10,000 people and only about 10 of us did fencing. There was a cool teacher who started a club in our school and he made me want to be a fencer because he was so much fun, he made fencing look like fun. I played basketball, volleyball, did track and field and played baseball all growing up. I was never extremely good at any of them except maybe basketball, which I still love to play.
In college I majored in literature which is good training because I just wrote a book!!! At age 17 I moved a 4 hour airplane ride away from my whole family and went to university in Ottawa so I could train with a great coach who lived there. I met my husband in Ottawa and got a teaching degree there after the Sydney Olympics. So now I am a professional teacher! Of course I would rather be just a fencer, but in Canada we have to do other things to earn enough money just to fence....even if we are number one in the world!

SCHERMAONLINE:
When did you start fencing, ?p?e in particular? Any family fencing tradition?

MACKAY:
I started fencing at age 12, with foil. I HATED it but because the teacher was cool, I stuck with it and changed to epee at age 15 when there was a conflict of interests... I had a basketball tournament the same weekend as the foil try-outs for the provincial team. SO, I had to do the epee try-outs the following weekend. And I succeeded! So I started fencing epee even though I HATED it. In retrospect, I see God pulling me in the direction of something I am so much naturally gifted for and hey- the success I have had in this sport shows that it was not a bad choice.
There are no fencing family traditions, unfortunately. Unless you consider ?fencing? putting up a fence because my whole family are farmers (and teachers) who put up fences on their property all the time to keep the cows in and the wolves out! My grandparents came from Eastern Europe to Canada and became farmers so they could support their family...They had no time to do any sports because they were actually living in a house with a dirt roof and trying to make enough money to buy food. My grandfather is my hero because of all the hardship he went through just to make sure his family survived in the new, hard country of Canada.
My father saw his first gymnasium at age 18 when he went to university to become... you guessed it... a teacher! So while natural athleticism and determination run rampant in my family, sports do not.

SCHERMAONLINE:
Who was your first coach? Which was your first fencing club?

MACKAY:
My first coach was that cool teacher I was telling you about. His name was Alan Nelson and he was just a fencer who wanted other people to love the sport he loved. He had no official coaching credentials outside of being a good man and loving the sport. My first fencing club was the NOT internationally renowned ?Brooks Fencing Club? :-) It was a club for people aged 12- 17 and any local people older who wanted to come and fence with a bunch of kids. It was a GREAT club that had all the best parts of sport: competitiveness, fairplay and plain fun.

SCHERMAONLINE:
We understand that in the past years you trained in Europe. Where and with whom?

MACKAY:
I came to France (Bordeaux) in 1999 for a few months and trained in Bordeaux with Jean Michel.
Then in 2001 I came back to Paris to train with Daniel Levavasseur until 2004 when I moved to Hungary and started training with Kulcsar!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Where and with whom do you train now? Who is your fencing coach and who are the other members of your entourage and team?

MACKAY:
Wow, the word ?entourage? sounds very formal and like I have a lot of people training with me and travelling with me just to make me better.... I WISH!!! We only sometimes have a coach (we are taught very young to be independant thinkers on the piste and when we can?t do that, we rely on our teammates to help us because a coach is only at about 60 percent of the events we do...)
The only time we ever have a kinestherapist is at World Championships. So if there is an injury on the canadian team we often go to see the italian (or german) physiotherapists.
You guys are always very generous with your medical help and often they are cute guys, too!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Do you think that fencing in Canada is different from other countries in Europe, France in particular?

MACKAY:
Sure, in Canada if you are a good fencer you are a FREAK! It is like being a good hockey player and coming from France... possible but rare. Thankfully we had Daniel Levavasseur who was our team coach for the Athens Olympics and he taught us girls epee team a lot about how to fence as a team (because it is TOTALLY different than individual) so we are getting better and better all the time.
Now we are sort of without a coach so if anyone is interested to coach some nice-looking, kind girls (who aren?t italian because your team is like that...) then the job is open to you... just don?t expect a good salary!
In Canada, every girl on the National team lives AT LEAST 4 HOURS AIRPLANE RIDE away from the others. So we never get to train together outside of small camps in Europe or back in Canada.
Also, women?s epee fencing in Canada is different than most places in Europe (again with the exception to Italy because your girls are all very charming and kind and everyone knows it) because we all really and truly like eachother.
The other Canadian girls are so amazing, funny, smart and kind and for the past 12 years of being on the Senior National team (I am OLD I tell you!)
I have NEVER had such an amazing team of girls that really feels like sisters. We allow eachother to be ourselves and appreciate what the others have to offer. I am so priveleged to share this time in my life with them.
Also Canadian fencing is different because we really care about other people. This year, we sponsored a child from a poor country, every month we all donate some money so he can get an education, better medicine and food. We will keep sponsoring this child (his name is ?Boston?) until he is 18 years old and every year we hope the next girl on the team (if it changes) to continue the sponsorship. I encourage every team to do the same because with only 25 euros per month you can really change a child?s life!

SCHERMAONLINE:
One can identify three main components in fencing: technical, physical, and mental. What percentage share do you give to each of these components?

MACKAY:
What am I, a mathematician? All I know is for myself I have about equal share of all. Of course, on each day it changes... especially for women. Sometimes we are stronger physically, superior technically, sometimes we are unbeatable mentally. It really depends on the day which is why it is important to have all three at your command. Maybe the day of the Olympics you won?t be able to do a parry-riposte but you will have the presence of mind to attack into their preparation to avoid having to do a parry! So they are all so neccessary...I can?t decide!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Any change in your technical, physical, and mental preparation now vis-?-vis the past?

MACKAY:
Sure! EVERYTHING has improved since I have been training with Gyozo Kulcsar. He is demanding, positive and unbelieveably techinical. He can tell me EXACTLY what I am doing incorrectly in a certain action and then if I fix it...wham! I can do the action. He is a genius, I tell you, a genius! Also, he knows when something is difficult for me (I use a French grip) so he encourages me but still demands perfection. Or if he doesn?t get perfection from me on those ?off? days, he at least demands humour. Which he always gets!

SCHERMAONLINE:
How often do you trainon average each week? How is your physical conditioning and preparation organized? How do you bring strength, speed, and endurance in your training sessions?

MACKAY:
I run 6 times a week: 3 times long sessions, 3 times sprints. I do yoga about 3 times a week and other physical prep (core body training etc.) the other 3. I play about an hour and a half of basketball 2 times per week. And I fence. And fence. And fence! Only about 2 hours per day but it is really intense and interesting so time flies! I bring strength, speed and endurance by training here at Honved where ? if you are not strong, fast and endurant- you LOSE!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Let?s talk about ?mental conditioning.? Do you think that the sport psychologist is important for a fencer? How do you see the role of this professional figure in an athlete?s preparation? Do you see a psychologist concentrating more on relaxation, focussing techniques, or should he get more involved in the more personal aspects of an individual?
Do you believe in this type of training? If so, how did this evolve during your fencing career and who is the professional sport psychologist in charge of this aspect of your preparation?

MACKAY:
Sure, I have used a sports psycologist in the past and he gave me some wonderful techniques that I use all the time before a competition and even during my matches. BUT I have to say (as an old woman of 30 years old...!) that the best sports psychology is just knowing yourself and knowing that even if you lose, you are still the same person and you are not defined by your fencing results or whatever else you think is important. You are who you are because God made you that way and you just better accept it and work with it or you are going to be very unhappy trying to be someone else. The most courageous thing, in a world where everyone is always trying to force us to be someone else, is to be yourself and be it well! HA! Now you Europeans are thinking that is ?American Self-Esteem Garbage? but I have to tell you that you will either believe it now or realize it when it is too late. Be yourself and be it well and you will be happy, regardless of if you have World Cup medals or not.

SCHERMAONLINE:
What do you think of Italian fencing, in particular the weapon you are most familiar, ?p?e?

MACKAY:
I love Italian fencing because it is creative and expressive. I HATE mechanical fencing and Italian fencing is not AT ALL mechanical. Also, the Italian girls have alway been so fun and kind and it is always a real pleasure to see them at competitions. ( and I love to check out what clothes they are wearing or what hairstyle they have? it is usually very cool!) The girls who are on the team in this generation are really great! They fence very hard and competitively during the match and there is serious intensity so you better watch out! But as soon as the match is finished, they are their regular, kind and funny selves.

SCHERMAONLINE:
Why in your opinion Italian women epeeists, aside from Cristiana Cascioli, have not won, in particular in team competitions? What do you think are the limitations or faults of the Italian women epeiists?

MACKAY:
Perhaps they lack the instruction as a team that a consistent coach can offer. I notice that they often have different coaches with them and that can cause some inconsistency in their approach to team matches. Team is so different then individual and you really need a coach to instruct and direct the match. But what do I know? I am not even a coach... just a competitor! So seriously, I don?t know. Ask me when I am 65 years old and have coached Canada to several Olympic Gold Medals!!! Until then, I can only guess!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Who do you consider the top three women epeeists in the world right now?

MACKAY:
Well, considering at the last 2 World Cups the final 3 have both included Imke (Duplitzer), Laura (Flessel) and me, I would say that we are the top 3 women?s epeeists in the world right now... BUT as we all know, fencing, especially epee is so subjective according to style that it is very hard to say that definitively. Plus, there are the chinese, koreans, cubans, and russians who don?t go to every event... and I have heard rumours that there are 4 Canadian girls (Leprohon, Dunnette, Kavelaars and Switzer) who are about to make a HUGE mark in international fencing....

SCHERMAONLINE:
Which are the three most promising among the junior women ?p?e fencers?

MACKAY:
Honestly, since I passed the age of 25 I no longer look at who is a junior because I don?t want to insult my age.
So I can?t tell you internationally who is junior. In Canada we have a few good ones, Voight, Palmer, etc. I know there is a GREAT junior named IZSO from Hungary who is very technical, physical, smart and kind and hopefully her senior career will be as successful. She deserves it!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Who is the woman epeeist who influenced/impressed you the most during your career?

MACKAY:
Several people: Tamara Esteri from Cuba is the fencer I admire most for her ability to be amongst the best in the sport, enjoy herself, be competitive and retire with dignity and a family. She is a wonderful woman whom I visit everytime I go to the competition in Cuba. I only hope to have her poise when I finish my career. Of course I admire Timea Nagy for her calm and belief in herself to win the Olympics even when she had not won anything since the previous Olympics... I grew up watching and admiring Claudia Bokel because she won practically everything since she was a junior and she always has a smile on her face. Pretty admirable! Ildiko Minzca from Hungary who is one of the sports greats has given me very good advice about enjoying the sport over the years. I also admire Laura Flessel for her ability to completely change the sport, making it more physical, more intense and also her ability to be so consistent at every event.

SCHERMAONLINE:
Is there one or more than one among them which you can consider a true friend?

MACKAY:
My greatest friend (outside of the Canadian girls, of course!) is Angela Espinosa. I am also very good friends with Tamara Esteri. The Hungarian girls are becoming good friends, they are a LOT of fun!

SCHERMAONLINE:
This is a question which you may choose not to answer. Is there an ?p?e woman fencer who ?bothers? you on the strip (in a sporty manner of course) with whom you have major problems fencing? Is there one fencer who gives you in particular a ?hard time??

MACKAY:
I don?t really want to answer this one. Nowadays, there is really nobody who gets me so angry that I need to tell the world!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Which of your bouts do you remember as being the most exciting?

MACKAY:
The last bout of the top 8 in the team event with Ildiko Minzca. It went into overtime and I won! It was great because there were ALL the Hungarians screaming for her and all my family and my husband?s family screaming for me. And it was so fabulous to win in such a tight match even though the Hungarians were very, very worthy opponents who deserved the best.

SCHERMAONLINE:
Which is the male epeeist you most admire?

MACKAY:
Every time I hear a story about my coach (Gyozo Kulscar) in his fencing years, I admire him for his brains, artistry and coolness. Also, he never brags to me about anything. Once I asked him if he had ever been to Canada and he said, ?yes, I enjoyed it very much.? Only later did I find out that the time he was in Canada was for the 1976 Olympics in Montreal where he won a bronze and gold medal... I should HOPE he ?enjoyed it very much? !!! :-)) who else? Pavel Kolobkov!!! Anyone who can take a year off and then come back and win world championships on BRAINS alone is my hero forever. Plus he is very nice, friendly, talkative and smart. Which makes for a good package!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Which are the best Canadian women epeeist? How often do you train together? What are your goals for the next World Championships in Torino, end then for the Olympics in Beijing?

MACKAY:
The best women?s Canadian epeeists are the 4 girls that went to the Olympics. We only train together when they come to Europe or I go home once a year for a training camp in Montreal in freezing cold February. Our goals are to win a medal at the Worlds in Torino... and to drink some great Italian red wine and eat some delicious gelato.. but that comes AFTER the event! For the olympics in Beijing, as I seriously doubt that women?s epee team will be at the olympics in 2008, I hope to win individually. After which, we will eat some dim sum and drink some good chinese beer.

SCHERMAONLINE:
Did you have to contend with any injuries or serious physical problems? Do you have a phisician that follows you in your training?

MACKAY:
I am 30 so I have injuries quite regularly. Tendonitis which has followed me since the olympics in Athens, and other assorted things. Fortunately, they are things I can deal with by wearing a brace, icing my body and resting. My new training is very good for my age because it is consistent, physical but not crazy and focussed on rest and relaxation. Since my coach was the national coach of Italy for about 15 years, he developed a taste for red wine and that has since become part of my ?recovery? regimen :-)

SCHERMAONLINE:
Do you think that there is a doping problem in fencing? Or that there is a risk for this to become a problem in the future?

MACKAY:
There is little risk of doping for two main reasons: One: Fencing is not a ?money? sport so people really just want to do it, as an old Italian sabre friend of mine -Raphael Caserta- once said, ?ALL FOR GLORY!? So doping is not a huge risk. Two: Fencing is such a cerebral sport that no matter how fast or strong you are, if you are dumber than a doornail, you are NEVER going to succeed. Sorry!

SCHERMAONLINE:
We know that you have published recently a book, ?Running with Swords". What is it about? Any plans for an Italian edition? The Italian fencing fans would be very keen to read it?

MACKAY:
My book, ?Running With Swords? has been a pretty big hit in Canada and the US but I am not aware of any Italian publication? I am SURE the Italian fans would love it because it is actually pretty funny! And there are stories about Cristiana Cascioli (when she beat me up in Budapest 2 years ago!) and other Italians which would interest people in your country. Once at a competition I helped Quondamcarlo with some English homework and she said she would buy my book when it came out because it would help her with her English? so maybe that is my way to get sales in Italy? HOMEWORK!!!

SCHERMAONLINE:
How long have you been married? I understand that your husband is part of your support team. How do you manage your careers together? Does he follow you in your travels around the world?

MACKAY:
I have been married for almost 5 years. Yeah, my husband is part of my support team the way any friend/ lover is. He supports me but he also has his own life: he is a musician who is touring France at this moment. I was there last weekend to watch his concert and he embarassed me by pointing me out before he played a song he wrote for me. I guess the next time I am in a final of a World Cup, I will stop the match and point to him and say, ?Isn?t he gorgeous?!? just like he did to me last weekend! Crazy man!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Your husband Geordie is also a very good musician, a guitar player. What kind of music does he play? Does he play in a band or solo? Do you play any instrument yourself?

MACKAY:
He is a guitar player/singer/songwriter. He plays ?acoustic pop/rock? according to the French and according to me he just plays well! He is solo sometimes but when he can arrange it, he has a band. Yes, I play the piano (since age 6!!!) and the trumpet since age 12 and the accordion since age 16. My husband is giving me guitar lessons so maybe soon I will be on his cd? JUST KIDDING!!!

SCHERMAONLINE:
We?ve seen you in several international tournaments listening to music wearing a headset. What is the kind of music you like best? Are there any artists or pieces in particular you like to listen to at a competition? Does music help you to relax, focus or charge you up emotionally?

MACKAY:
I try to listen to music that is positive with a really good beat. Recently that has been Desree ?You Gotta Be? or Black Eyed Peas ?Where is the Love? or anything by Good Charlotte or Train ?Drops of Jupiter?. My husband asked me to say that I only listen to him but his music is very positive and makes you want to dance by yourself so I cannot say his music and be totally honest. I need something more intense!

SCHERMAONLINE:
There is a beautiful picture of you which has gone arond the world: that of you lifted by your team mates I believe either at the opening (or closing?) ceremonies at the Sydney Olympics. You were in Sydney in 2000 and Athens in 2004. Which games gave you the highest emotions, the most memorable moments?

MACKAY:
It was at the Closing ceremonies and I had convinced my judo friend (who won the silver medal ? Nicholas Gill) that he needed ?post Olympic training? so he had to put my 62 kilos on his shoulders so we could get into the newspapers... Well, when we heard the cheers of the crowd we forgot about the newspapers and just loved the excitement! The games of Athens 2004 were MUCH more exciting because I had 3 of my best friends to celebrate with in the closing ceremonies! There is a classic photo I have where we are all on our cell phones to our families....we all look so happy to be there and so happy to be together it is wonderful!

SCHERMAONLINE:
What are your hobbies? When your are home ? where is home now? ? how do you enjoy your free time?

MACKAY:
Home is Budapest! My hobbies are writing, reading, cooking and going to the opera. My husband wants me to say that HE is my hobby but until he can sing an aria from ?Rigoletto? I will have to say only my first four are my TRUE hobbies! Today I made a delicious blue cheese soup and rosemary foccaccia! Delcioso! I also love to keep in touch with my family. I miss them SO MUCH. I have lived at least 4 hours airplane ride away from my parents since I was 17 years old. Now my 3 sisters and 1 brother and their spouses all have children and I am the ?missionary auntie? only returning home once per year with gifts and weird clothes!!!

SCHERMAONLINE:
In Italy, almost all fencers in the national team belong to various military or police corps and as such they receive a salary to train and compete. Is this also the case for the top Canadian athletes?

MACKAY:
No, in Canada, I receive exactly the same as the other girls on the national team: 1500 Canadian dollars per month (about 1000 Euros per month) I WISH we could be members of some salaried system but unfortunately, our money stops 5 months after we retire... even if we have won Olympic Gold. There is NO money paid to the winner of an Olympic or World Championship medal. After winning Canada?s first-ever World Championships medal in Leipzig last year, I got a congratulations letter from the Fencing Federation and that is all. No money, no job, no man-servant! Just ?well done? Good thing I truly think Canada is the best country in the world or I would be pretty sad to be an athlete for them...

SCHERMAONLINE:
How much does a champion like you earn in Canada? We are not asking the amount, but we?d like to understand if you can consider yourself as a sport pro or if you have to have other sources of revenue to be able to dedicate yourself 100% to fencing? For instance, do you have one or more sponsors, and if so, who are they?

MACKAY:
My sponsors are my mother and father who give me 280 Euros per month to pay for my coaching. Also, I earned about 3600 Euros for my book ?Running With Swords? (I will earn more if everyone reading this goes and buys a copy!!! :-) but otherwise, I really live like a student. I have a strict budget and that is why most of my clothes are from the used clothing store and most of my equipment is from my equipment sponsor DUELLIST who are a GREAT company! They have wonderful equipment!

SCHERMAONLINE:
How popular is the sport of fencing in Canada? For instance, are there TV programs about fencing events? Are the top fencing champions as popular as the hockey, basketball, ski, or swimming champions?

MACKAY:
Well, I just had my first official recognition from someone who knows me ONLY from media. It just happened to be in the free sex-clinic in Ottawa, Canada (because I live in Europe I don?t have any health insurance so to avoid paying 70 Euros for a visit to the doctor to renew my birth-control pills, I just went to the free drop-in sex clinic in Ottawa) Now everything there is supposed to be confidential because they do STD testing, etc. So they just give you a number instead of using your name. But when the nurse came out and looked at my chart, she said, ?OH my GOD! Are you Sherraine MacKay!? I just read about you in the newspaper and saw you on television, you are that fencer who wrote a book!? Then she snapped off her rubber glove and extended her arm to shake my hand. I just looked at her and slowly shook her hand, saying, ?Lady, I am just number 55 here in this clinic!? So fencing is not THAT well known but sometimes you can be surprised!!!

SCHERMAONLINE:
In March there will be a World Cup tournament in Rome. Will you be there? Are you familiar with Rome?

MACKAY:
yes, I will be going to Rome to fence and to visit one of my old friends from high school who was in the band with me (he played the trombone) He is one of the 10,000 of us from Brooks who escaped and now lives in Europe. I am very excited because I LOVE Rome. I was there with Geordie in November as a surprise birthday gift for him and we thought it was a beautiful as Paris but without Parisien people! Also, Michaelangelo?s painting ?Day of Judgement? in the Sistine Chapel made me cry when I saw it so I will go back and see that. I was shocked at how beautiful and terrifying it was to see that huge painting. Also, la Piet? is my favorite work of art and I am SO anxious to see it again. And as well I will do some fencing, eat some gnocchi, drink some red wine and finish with some gelato.... long live Italy!

SCHERMAONLINE:
What is your view on the new rules introduced for foil fencing after the Athens Olynpics?

MACKAY:
They have changed the sport dramatically and I hope it will become as flamboyant as it was before because now it is a little slower than I expect foil to be... but I cannot complain because it is still not as slow as epee. I must say that Valentina Vezzali is an AMAZING athlete to come back after a baby and win with new rules in place. Incredible. And I miss seeing Trilini on the circuit. She is such a great person and great fencer and I can only hope to see her soon!

SCHERMAONLINE:
Do you share the general policy of the FIE President, Mr. Roch, whose goal is to expand as far as possible the number of countries practicing fencing, even at the cost of denaturing foil and saber? Do you think, as many do, that the future of fencing is in the direction of ?p?e which is the most popular weapon in the world? Some people even think that after Beijing we may go towards the elimination of foil from the Olympic games...

MACKAY:
I cannot get too involved in the politics of fencing, that is up to retired athletes who don?t have to use all of their brain power on trying to master a counterattack or a parry-riposte. But I am certainly in support of expanding the number of countries practicing fencing. There has to be some tradition retained but we should not be afraid of change in our sport... just don?t make me have to fence sabre!!! :-)

SCHERMAONLINE:
Do you think that it is helpful to create new rules for the weapons only to increase the TV appeal, hence the popular appeal? Do you have any suggestions to make in this direction? Or do you think that we should maintain the historical traditions of this sport?

MACKAY:
Well, I think the ?visor-mask? is a complete waste of time. You can only see a small portion of the fencer?s face and it does not create the emotion that you see in, for instance, tennis athlete?s faces. The true emotion and appeal of our sport is the celebration after each point. SO I think the FIE should re-think how they punish people for removing their mask after each point. Nothing was more hilarious than seeing Hughes Obry strut around like a rooster when he scored a point... or Paolo Milanoli showing everyone his perfect white teeth as he celebrated his point. We still have the historical traditions of the actual fencing moves with the modern ?football? celebrations of removing articles of clothing to express our happiness... sounds good to everyone?!

SCHERMAONLINE:
One last question. Prior to this interview we knew that you were aware of Schermaonline since we found the link in your website which is very popular around the world. Do you like our website, Italian language restrictions aside? Do you have any advice to give us to improve it? Is there anything in particular you?d like to find on Schermaonline?

MACKAY:
Yes, I would like to find athletes favorite recipes on Schermaonline. That way you could find something delicious AND nutritious to cook or bake. I could give you a GREAT recipe for New York cheesecake that is totally delicious and not at all nutritious...

SCHERMAONLINE:
Many thanks Sherraine also on behalf of the Italian fencing fans and best of luck for the future!

MACKAY:
Thanks and I look forward to meeting you at the competition!

Photos by PETER BREGG e XAVIER MAREST
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Nota: La traduzione ? stata curata da Gman, che ringraziamo a nome di tutti i lettori.